I discuss having to deal with Christian psuedo-intellectual apologists in my previous article, but those people who accost us are often not technically apologists. Apologetics are about defending one’s position. They are about attacking yours. A popular apologetics website, CARM, advises their would-be missionaries into the dark realms of Neo-Paganism to stick to asking questions:

I find that asking questions is one of the best things you can do when talking to anybody in any different theological system. I ask questions and listened intently to the answers and then ask more questions. Invariably I begin to discover inconsistencies in their answers and I politely ask more questions around those inconsistencies. It does not take long for the person to start seeing that their belief system has serious problems. Remember, anything that is not based upon the Christian faith is false and will have errors which you can discover through asking questions.

I like the CARM site. It’s probably one of the best Christian apologetics sites out there, actually. I think it’s worth the effort to examine what they have and, once you realize that’s probably the best there is, it’s pretty easy to be well prepared for any comers.

All of the information they have about Neo-Paganism is under the heading of “Wicca.” They don’t really distinguish between types of Neo-Paganism. I think Wiccans account for about 80% of Neo-Paganism anyway, so it’s probably safe for them to keep it simple. Just keep in mind that to them, Neo-Pagan and Wiccan are the same thing, so all this information applies to their approach to any Neo-Pagan.

So, the CARM method is to start off questioning you to put you on the defensive. The missionary is not there to defend Christianity, at least not at first. He’s there to attack your beliefs though what are basically softened up court-room cross examination techniques. In other words, they are forcing you to be the apologist. CARM provides a convenient list of questions to get the missionary started:

1. Do the gods and goddesses of Wicca actually exist?
2. If they actually exist, how do you know they exist?
3. If your tradition contradicts the tradition of another Wiccan, can they both be objectively true?
4. How do you feel about believing in the religious system where you cater your religion to your desires?
5. if you cater/construct your religion according to our desires, then isn’t it nothing more than your own invention?
6. Is Wicca able to be shown to be false or is it all non-verifiable ideas?
7. If your spells and incantations produce results, how do you know that the power behind the results is good or not?
8. How do you know that there is something more sinister behind Wicca?
9. Why do you think that rituals dealing with candles, knives, and such are able to affect nature?

Yes, this approach is somewhat obnoxious and, as I suggested before, somewhat intellectually dishonest. But it can be used to our personal advantage. It would be worth while to consider these questions in your own spiritual practice and think about how you would answer these questions and similar ones in a polite and respectful manner. The primary benefit to you out of all this interaction with Christians is that the Christian acts as a sounding board for your own philosophical development. In other words, it will help your personal growth to allow them to be the interrogator they so badly seem to want to be. In a way, that’s exactly what the Christian is hoping for. They just make the additional assumption that, once shown you are in error, you should become Christian instead of just a slightly more sophisticated Pagan.

Here is how I might answer these questions if they were asked of me:

1. Do the gods and goddesses of Wicca [i.e. your Neo-Pagan Path] actually exist?

“Of course they do!”

2. If they actually exist, how do you know they exist?

“They told me.” Yes, I am being a little cheeky, but this line of questioning amuses me. They sound like Atheists here.

3. If your tradition contradicts the tradition of another Wiccan, can they both be objectively true?

“No. But so what? No religion is objectively true. They all deal with the subjective.” This answer is unfortunate in that it takes the focus off of you.. The Christian would have to jump from questioning you to Christian-Defense-Mode, which does you no good. Hopefully, they will have better sense than to ask this stupid question in the first place. Another answer might be: “None of the traditions hold an exclusive claim on Truth, so none of them objectively contradict each other as far as I know.” One problem with that is that you might end up defending religious paths you don’t even subscribe to. It might get complicated.

4. How do you feel about believing in the religious system where you cater your religion to your desires?

5. if you cater/construct your religion according to our desires, then isn’t it nothing more than your own invention?

I take these together, because they revolve around the same point. This brings up a lot of conflicting issues for me that I have not yet entirely resolved for myself. I think they actually have a good point here and one in which I often join them in making. I think there is a potential pitfall in Neo-Paganism in that, if you custom tailor your beliefs to exactly where you are now, spiritually, there is no real room for growth. You have nothing to give you direction on where to go next.

But, at least a partial response to the question they pose is this: “Everyone is on their own spiritual journey. We all follow the spiritual path of our own choosing. Some prefer taking a train, where everyone is along the same track. Some prefer going by car where the driving is up to you. Yes, you can get lost that way, and you might get sidetracked on occasion, but the trip is a lot more fulfilling.”

Another response, although seemingly in direct conflict to what I just said, is this: “We don’t construct our religion, we discover it. We don’t choose our gods. They choose us. Really nobody has a choice in what they believe. You can’t wake up one morning and chose to believe the Sun will rise in the West. You would have to be given a good reason to believe or stop believing, something. And then, when you have that good reason, you can’t help but to change your belief. So, it’s not something you can control.”

6. Is Wicca able to be shown to be false or is it all non-verifiable ideas?

This strange question is premised on this: that Christianity is falsifiable. You have a few choices here. One is that you can explain what would have to be demonstrated to you in order to abandon Wicca or whatever path you have chosen. I would do this if asked, I think, but my answer is long, complicated, and way too specific to me to go into here. Another option is to patiently explain that you follow a religion, not a science. Science is about falsifiable claims, not religion. Religion is about faith. Of course, that would lead to a confrontation about their bizarre belief that Christianity is falsifiable, putting them on the defensive. I’d avoid that if I could, because you don’t get any personal benefit out of their defending their beliefs.

7. If your spells and incantations produce results, how do you know that the power behind the results is good or not?

8. How do you know that there is something more sinister behind Wicca?

Again, these two questions are basically asking the same thing. My answer is: “Well, that’s where ‘faith’ comes into it, I suppose.” Of course, the question might easily be turned around: “How does a Christian know that the power they pray to is good or not?” All the bizarre demonic conspiracy theories they come up with to explain why all other world religions are false and “of the Devil” can just as easily be applied to theirs. They really don’t like that, though. Whenever I bring this up, the person I am “dialogueing” with blows a gasket. I’d avoid that argument unless you want to see them explode. Also, you lose the practical benefit of this interaction I’ve been talking about, though you do get the cruel satisfaction of watching them fluster.

9. Why do you think that rituals dealing with candles, knives, and such are able to affect nature?

“The same reason anyone else expects their prayers to be answered. It’s all part of having faith in a religion.” They might not understand that ritual is really a form of prayer. It’s “prayer with props.” That might take a little bit of explanation.

In spite of all this advice I give about appologetics, I don’t care for apologetics in general. While apologetics have their place, I suppose, they often turn logic on its head in a mockery of true philosophy. Where logic starts with a premise and progresses to a conclusion, apologetics start with a conclusion and builds up the arguments in reverse, often ignoring or concealing the premise altogether. When I defend my faith, I don’t think it’s really apologetics. I am not merely defending my own conclusions, I am exploring them and testing them along with my “attacker.” If my conclusions cannot withstand my scrutiny, with the assistance of a Christian sounding board, they must be revised or replaced.

If you are a Christian who is interested in saving my soul, I always welcome your questions. Try your best to poke holes in my philosophy. It’s what I live for. I have learned and grown a lot from those kinds of interactions, and mostly when an inconsistency or error has been shown to me. I love being shown I’m wrong more than just about anything. And this invitation is not just for Christians. Anyone who wants to show me the error of my ways is invited to join in.

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Up to now, I’ve focused on the very fundamental principles I am working with, the most fundamental being the continuation of a species, or a tribe, or humanity in general, but this is not sufficient in itself, obviously. Ants reproduce, bacteria reproduces, but we wouldn’t call that particularly virtuous and certainly not moral, per se. So, it’s time we go beyond mere survival, and I think this sums it up: survival and propagation of our species is actually a means to an end: That end is propagating and preserving Beauty.

So let’s talk about Beauty and what it is. What we are talking about is big-B Beauty, not merely “prettiness.” There is the sense of sublime awe we feel when we perceive it, and we might see it in a sunset, in a field of flowers, in an elegant mathematical proof. Sometimes it’s not pretty at all. It is Truth according to Keats, and I think he was on to something.

“Beauty is truth, truth beauty,” - that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
- Ode to a Grecian Urn

Our Celtic ancestors saw a relationship between Truth and Beauty as well.

Three things which strengthen a person to stand against the whole world: Seeing the quality and beauty of truth; seeing beneath the cloak of falsehood; and seeing to what ends truth and falsehood come.

In their words, we understand that Truth is beautiful, and seeing that beauty gives us strength. But beauty is found in other ways:

The three most beautiful sights: a potato garden in bloom, a ship in sail, a woman after the birth of her child.

This is one of my favorite triads and I find the imagery very moving. Here, beauty is seen in the bounty of nature, in fertility, birth, new life, in potentials. Although, a “ship in sail” seems a bit out of place, doesn’t it? A ship in sail, though, is the culmination of an exquisite balance: the cut of the bow in the water, the sails full of wind, a hand on the rudder to turn it to that perfect angle where everything comes together. The huge ship is propelled forward by its harmony with nature.

I think the point of these, taken together, is that Truth is Harmony in Nature, which is Beauty. The highest natural state is a harmony, a balance. And when there that harmony, and balance, that is where we find Beauty. I might even go so far as to suggest that is the great Truth the world religions try to point us toward. It is the grandness of nature that makes us feel both insignificant, and wondrous, base, and yet perfect, a small part of something wonderful.

I’ve said before that there are three tests to find the truth of philosophical matters: reason, experience, and intuition. Well, here, we are talking about the “intuition” part of that equation. When we see or perceive something truly Beautiful, that is our intuitive perception of Truth, of the Natural Harmony. We can, then, sense Truth intuitively by its Beauty.

But, I’m a practical person. So, briefly on to practical matters. How do we exhibit Beauty in our lives, how do we propagate it? A wisdom triad tells us that there are three beautiful beings of the world: the upright, the skillful, and the reasonable. We display beauty not by putting on makeup and nice clothes. We display beauty by being virtuous, by working hard and training hard, by being understanding and kind.

One last triad I would like to leave you with:

Three people who will please the Mighty Ones: they who love everything living with their whole heart, they who love every beautiful thing with their whole strength, and they who seek every knowledge with their whole understanding.

So, then, I urge you to Seek knowledge, Love beauty, and Love life.

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I discuss one of my favorite triads:

Three whose full reward can never be given to them: parents, a good teacher, and the Mighty Ones.

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I just uploaded my second installment in my “Constructing ‘Faith’” series. I don’t know how many there will be as, well, I’m kind of making it up as I go along. I’ll keep doing them until I’m done, I guess.

This one is about considering the criteria we use to make “truth” judgments.

I just created my first YouTube video. I got the idea of doing videos from watching some of the really good atheist ones out there, and I also thought that doing videos of me talking about stuff would take a lot less time than writing about them.

It didn’t. It took a whole lot more time.

Still, I am rather pleased with the result. This video is the first of a series in which I hope to expound upon my unique brand of philosophy. This first one is entitled Constructing “Faith” Part one: Conflict. In it, I criticize the pagan community for… not criticizing. I hope you enjoy it.

UPDATE: It got rejected for being a couple of minutes too long. Oops. I’ll be editing it and getting it up as soon as I can.

UPDATE: The newer (2 minutes shorter) version is now up and properly linked!